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Old 17-05-07, 08:46
Udchavadee Onin Udchavadee Onin is offline
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Dear all,
I agree with it. However scientific knowledge should make easy to understand and transfer to community level if we need people relevant in mangrove management and community. Adding scientific knowledge with people experience is one of important thing for effective management of mangrove ecosystems.

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Udchavadee Onin
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Old 21-05-07, 00:30
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Default Note to the question ...Is scientific knowledge necessary for effective management of mangrove ecosystems?

Dear Professor Dr Gong, Dr Ong and respective experts,

- Well,...Science?.....complex language and difficult to be understood, ..... and adapting of high carrying capacity....

- Management........needs a right carrying capacity to ensure a long run of resources availability.......

- Ecosystem........natural assets ...can be goods and services within a limited capacity of production chain to produce their goods and services.

SO, firstly...I would totally agree....most experts use scientific knowledge as the basic toward a good management. That's so fine....however....in regarding to the ground management, especially at the lowest level....resources users, for instance local people hard to follow the scientific knowledge derived/based rules for a management strategy. To this question, from my understanding..there are two levels of management strategy; manager level and local level in rgarding to meet a long run management.

So, the interpretation from managers down directly to local....should and/or must be simple language..to be easily understood. Resources users like local people can see only their basic needs without consideration of long terms uses, ....but managers do.
Finally, I would conclude that...the survival ecosystems.. very need scientific knowledge to foresee the resources capacity of their production vs basic needs of users.
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Old 23-05-07, 06:01
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Thank you all for your participation in this discussion. I have recently received a package of photos from the recent mangroves training course, and thought some of you may be interested in seeing these. Enjoy!



















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Old 23-05-07, 08:46
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Dear friends,

Here are some photos I took at the farewell dinner at the end of the mangrove training course.

















Regards,

Zhou Haolang

Guangxi Mangrove Research Center
92 Chang Qing Dong Lu
Beihai 536000
Guangxi, China
Tel: 0086-779-2055294
Email: zhouhaolang@sina.com

Last edited by Zhou Haolang : 23-05-07 at 08:49.
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Old 24-05-07, 01:52
Roberto Rodriguez Abrera Roberto Rodriguez Abrera is offline
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Default Importance of Science in Mangrove Management

Dear Dr. Ong and Dr. Gong,

Please accept my sincere thanks and appreciation for the expertise and enriching experience you have afforded to us during the Regional Training Course on the Sustainable Use of Mangroves Ecosystems on April 25-May 8, 2007 held thereat the beautiful island state of Penang, particularly in your prestigious University SAINS Malaysia.

This is my opinion/comment to the topic for discussion: IS SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE NECESSARY FOR EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT OF MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS?

Certainly, there is a need. Generally, no private individual owns the mangrove ecosystems. It is a common resource that usually tends to be abused, if no management measures are in place, usually it is managed by the state. In the Philippines and in other countries, the concept of co-management is now being pursued. The national government, local government units and the coastal communities take active, with defined role in the management of mangrove ecosystems.

Massive and consistent information and educational campaign in schools and in the communities, through radios, televisions and print media, on the importance of sustainably managing our mangrove ecosystems are vigorously undertaken by government agencies, non-government organizations and environmental advocates.

Definitely, the information that must be delivered to educate the coastal communities and stakeholders, concerning the management of mangrove ecosystems shall be and shall have scientific basis and explanation.

It is only then, we can convince people out there, who primarily rely there subsistence and settlement in the mangroves and coastal areas, should have scientific knowledge and information, that will make them understand and appreciate what we are professing.

Employing the appropriate strategy and understanding, taking into consideration and glimpse of the social, cultural and economic aspects of the people in a particular place, is likewise a wise move, to gain their qualified cooperation and support.

Hence, undoubtedly, scientific knowledge is an important tool, towards institutionalizing the effective management of mangrove ecosystems among our people.

Best regards.

Very truly yours,


ROBERTO R. ABRERA
Aquacultural Center Chief II &
concurrent RFRDC Manager
Inland Sea Ranching Station
Bureau of Fisheries & Aquatic Resources-Region 4B
Department of Agriculture
Puerto Princesa City 5300, Palawan
Philippines
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Old 24-05-07, 11:14
Gong Wooi Khoon Gong Wooi Khoon is offline
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Default Mangrove Training Course & Need for Scientific Knowledge for Effective Management

Dear Friends,

First of all, we would like to use this forum to thank all the participants of the recent GEF/UNEP SCS Mangrove Training Course for their enthusiasm and active participation in all the activities. It was great to have a group that worked so well together right from the start and was so willing to share experiences and exchange ideas. Ong and I certainly learnt a lot from you on many aspects (including the problems you face) of managing mangroves in your various countries; as well as on “scientific” aspects like recent developments on carbon trading (thanks Phuong), and also other important things like some special tricks of photography (thanks Su Bo) and new computer “gimmicks” (thanks Zhou)! Thanks are also due to our own mangrove model (Tinh); economist (Mai); Mo and Qiu for showing us the small mangroves in Guangxi and explaining how important these are; Bert for bringing in fisheries aspects without fail; Vener and Edwin for their keen interest and persistence in questioning the Matang foresters; Eri, Marcel and Odang for constantly pointing out the many “physical” similarities between the Batu Ampar mangroves and Matang and Merbok; our champion crab catcher (Sam Aun); our most enthusiastic and efficient mollusc catcher-and-identifier (Cheewarat); our most capable class “monitor” (Bansok) and speech-presenter (Sothanine); our Mr. Conservation (Amporn) and our school-teacher & main entertainer/dancer (Wadee). Last but not least, we would like to thank Suhaili for so sportingly and ably taking all the criticisms and comments that we “hurled” at him as he was our only “local participant”! Many thanks to all of you!

Now, as to the question of whether or not scientific knowledge is needed for sound management decisions: we, of course, agree with all of you who have posted replies on this e-forum saying that yes, there is no doubt that scientific knowledge is necessary. A few (Wadee and Bansok included) pointed out that whilst the managers could well understand the science, at the local/community level, many “resource users” may not understand the science and it is necessary to present them the scientific basis for management in simple terms so that they can understand better how they too can contribute to using the mangroves in such a way that the mangroves are sustained for the long term. Wadee also pointed out the need to make use of the experience of the local people. These are very relevant points and I think all the participants appreciated how the local cockle-rearer (also contractor for thinning) Ah Miang as well as the charcoal kiln operator (Mr. Chuah) of the Matang Mangroves, had such a good understanding of the basic science as well as appreciation for the need to keep the mangrove ecosystem intact and how to do this by not over-exploiting, the need to keep plants for seed production, the importance of mangroves to fisheries etc. In his message on this forum, Bert mentioned that there is now “co-management” of the mangroves by the national government, local government and coastal communities and there are various education campaigns to educate the public on mangroves.

I think I will stop here and not labour the point that scientific knowledge is indeed necessary for sound management. So, once again, thank you for being such good course participants and also for participating in this e-forum. Lights out please (thank you Sam Aun)!

Ong joins me in sending our best regards,

Gong
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Old 28-05-07, 04:22
Zhou Haolang Zhou Haolang is offline
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Default China Mangrove Forum

Dear Friends,
China National Forum on Mangrove Wetland is going to be held from September 8 to September 9. We hope those mangrove people who are interested in the forum can come to my city (Beihai, Guangxi) to attend the forum. Costs for accomodation and foods in my city will be borne by my center (Guangxi Mangrove Research Center).
Title of the forum: China National Forum on Mangrove Wetland
Venue: Beihai, Guangxi, China
Date: Sept. 8-Sept. 9
The themes of the forum:
l Ecological Security of Mangroves and Coastal Wetlands
l Conservation, Restoration, and Sustainable Use of Mangroves
Sponsors:
  • Forestry Bureau of Guangxi
  • Guangxi Mangrove Research Center (GMRC)/ Guangxi Marine Environment & Coastal Wetland Research Center
Organizers
  • Guangxi Mangrove Research Center (GMRC)/ Guangxi Marine Environment & Coastal Wetland Research Center
  • Forestry Bureau of Beihai
Co-organizers
  • Guangxi Land and Resource Dept. (Guangxi Oceanic Administration)
  • Environment Protection Bureau of Guangxi
  • Guangxi Academy of Science
  • Beihai Government
International Sponsors
  • UNEP/GEF-SEPA
  • UNDP/GEF-SOA
  • REAGMAN,Japan
Participants
160 participants are expected to come.
Secretary Office
Guangxi Mangrove Research Center
92 Chang Qing Dong Lu
Beihai 536000
Guangxi, China
Tel: 86-779-2065609 (Fax), 2055294
Email: mangrovecenter@sina.com
Website: http://www.mangrove.org.com
Contact:
Name
Employer
Mobile
Email
SU Yong
Wildlife Protection Office
13307861293
gxnnsw@163.com
ZHOU Haolang
GMRC
13006999029
mangrovecenter@sina.com
LU Haining
Beihai Forestry Bureau
13507793105
lu126789@126.com
FAN Hangqing
GMRC
13977939731
fanhq@ppp.nn.gx.cn
Return Recipt
ame

Gender

Nationality

Birth Date

Employer

Position

Address

Post Code

Mobile phone

Fax

Email

Presentation Title


Please fill in the recipt and send it to the secretary office, and then we can send you a formal invitation to facilitate the issueing of your visa. Thank you. Hope I can see the friends I met in Penang again in my city.
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Old 28-05-07, 08:04
Roberto Rodriguez Abrera Roberto Rodriguez Abrera is offline
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Default Is Scientific Knowledge Necessary For Effective Management Of Mangrove Ecosystems?

Dear Dr. Ong and Dr. Gong,

Please accept my sincere thanks and appreciation for the expertise and enriching experience you have afforded to us during the Regional Training Course on the Sustainable Use of Mangroves Ecosystems on April 25-May 8, 2007 held thereat the beautiful island state of Penang, particularly in your prestigious University SAINS Malaysia.

This is my opinion/comment to the topic for discussion: IS SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE NECESSARY FOR EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT OF MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS?

Certainly, there is a need. Generally, no private individual owns the mangrove ecosystems. It is a common resource that usually tends to be abused, if no management measures are in place, usually it is managed by the state. In the Philippines and in other countries, the concept of co-management is now being pursued. The national government, local government units and the coastal communities take active, with defined role in the management of mangrove ecosystems.

Massive and consistent information and educational campaign in schools and in the communities, through radios, televisions and print media, In the importance of sustainably managing our mangrove ecosystems are vigorously undertaken by government agencies, non-government organizations and environmental advocates.

Definitely, the information that must be delivered to educate the coastal communities and stakeholders, concerning the management of mangrove ecosystems shall be and shall have scientific basis and explanation.

It is only then, we can convince people out there, who primarily rely there subsistence and settlement in the mangroves and coastal areas, should have scientific knowledge and information, that will make them understand and appreciate what we are professing.

Employing the appropriate strategy and understanding, taking into consideration and glimpse of the social, cultural and economic aspects of the people in a particular place, is likewise a wise move, to gain their qualified cooperation and support.

Hence, undoubtedly, scientific knowledge is an important tool, towards institutionalizing the effective management of mangrove ecosystems among our people.

Best regards.

Very truly yours,


ROBERTO R. ABRERA
Aquacultural Center Chief II &
concurrent RFRDC Manager
Inland Sea Ranching Station
Bureau of Fisheries & Aquatic Resources-Region 4B
Department of Agriculture
Puerto Princesa City 5300, Palawan
Philippines
 


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